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Jeff Belanger, Part Two



Melanie: What's your take on orbs?

Jeff: Orbs are simply too inconclusive to be considered a real supernatural phenomenon. Orbs are rampant among amateur photographers because most are using point-and-shoot cameras - especially digital point-and-shoot cameras.

Tamara: Honestly, I think that people, if money is not part of the equation, will often tend to use what will give them the results they desire on the subconscious level, don't you?

Jeff: As camera technology improves, and the physical size and weight of the camera decreases for convenience, camera manufacturers are forced to move the flash element closer to the lens element on the camera. This is a problem because with the flash firing so close to the lens, any dust or moisture in the immediate vicinity of the lens is going to be lit up like a... well, like an orb. But that only accounts for a portion of orbs.

Melanie: In other words, the orbs have been there the whole time and we are just now starting to really notice them. I wonder what will be appearing in our viewfinders 10, 15, 20 years from now if photographic technology continues to progress at this rate? I also wonder if the same explanation accounts for ghostly mists/ectoplasm caught on film?

Tamara: My primary digital camera is good-sized and capable of taking shots in near-darkness without a flash. I almost never get orbs under those circumstances. With a flash, I occasionally get one, but it's rare unless I'm in dust or rain or similar conditions. My light-weight, less powerful digital can pick up an orb anytime, anywhere. My film camera rarely picks up orbs, though that may be because I rarely remember to get the film developed. Out of maybe 600 photos containing orbs, I have about half a dozen I think might be something special.

I've picked up maybe 20 mists in photos, but only one of them is truly anomalous -- as far as I can tell. The rest are too close to the lens to be anything but vapor, as Jeff points out.

As camera technology improves, we'll probably see fewer explainable anomalies, which some people will find annoying and others appreciate, since it cuts down on false positives. One other thought -- do you ever notice all the orbs in films or TV shows? They're lousy with them.

Jeff: The vast majority of orbs are caused by lens flare. You have to remember that the flash travels at the speed of light - or 186,000 miles per second. Considering your average point-and-shoot camera has a shutter speed of 1/125 of a second - the light from the flash has the opportunity to travel 1,488 miles during the time your shutter is open.

Next, we need to understand that cameras have 4 to 9 optical elements or lenses in them to correct image quality.

Stay with me here... If you're in a 20-foot by 20-foot room and the light from your flash has traveled roughly 1,488 miles within that room and bounced off of every reflective, shiny, or moist surface, then the light gets bounced, reflected, and refracted over 4 to 9 separate lenses - the likelihood of lens flare in any part of the image seems obvious.

Lens flare accounts for the vast majority of orbs. However, the reason I don't discount them 100% is because I know of witnesses who have seen orbs of light energy moving with their naked eye. And I've seen some video footage that shows unexplained balls of light moving around in a seemingly deliberate pattern. Corpse light - or a glowing flash of light over a gravesite - is another phenomenon that goes back centuries and could also support cemetery orbs.

Tamara: Aren't corpse-lights likely to be methane-related? (Anyone who thought they'd get out of here without one fart joke is sadly mistaken. . .)

Jeff: So if the human eye and a video camera can see these types of things, I imagine a still camera could also capture them.

Melanie: I have seen orbs with the naked eye myself once or twice, not long enough to run and grab the camera but just long enough for me to think to myself, "Wow, there goes an orb!" To me, they appeared in exactly the same form as the ones caught on videotape with the same type of movement. Corpse lights and mysterious lights like the Brown Mountain lights in North Carolina have been reported for hundreds of years, as you said, and there is obviously something to those reports, be it ghostly spirits or the old favorite "swamp gas."

Tamara: I've seen them too, recently, at Calico Ghost Town. I really tried to convince myself they were the same thing as you see when your eyes are adjusting to tricks of lighting. And I did see a few of those, after glancing at lantern light. But the three “real” orbs I saw were nowhere near any outside light source and they were completely different. As Melanie said, they looked like they do in photographs. One inside a building traveled forward quickly toward the window, then winked out. Then another (or the same one, more likely) winked in and out several times at odd intervals in the same window of this small locked and empty building. (We could see the entire interior of the building – no living thing was in there.) The third orb was large, maybe bigger than a basketball and outdoors. It floated down from a height of about 15 feet (that's where I first saw it) to the ground. Then did even more interesting things. (A story for another day.)

Melanie: I have also seen photos with orbs that were the result of interaction between a person and the unseen entity. In one photo, a woman felt a cat brush against her feet underneath her computer desk several nights in a row. The woman's cat had recently died. The next time it happened she grabbed her camera and snapped a photo underneath the desk. The photo shows a small orb hovering next to her feet. Another photo shows a recliner with an orb floating directly in front of the headrest. The person who had taken the photo had asked her deceased father to "pose" for a photo in his favorite chair.

That sort of orb evidence accompanied with evidence of interaction with some sort of unseen intelligence really makes a point in favor of some orbs being true orbs.

Tamara: It truly may. At the very least, it points to the idea that orbs may be lingering energy masses. Some years ago, when a pet cat died, I saw something white and opaque flutter out of him -- it was more Kleenex-shaped than orbish, but I think maybe that had to do with the immediacy of the event. I've also heard a report from someone I trust about seeing a huge orb lingering after hours among the museums in Florence, Italy. It makes sense that this may be a form of orb that's simply leftover energy from emotionally-awed, living people. Sort of a visual form of that really nifty, spooky vibration you sense when you're in a normally active place, like an amusement park, after it's closed.

Jeff: I've learned through experience to generally keep my mouth shut when it comes to orbs, because there is no right answer for the person who took the picture. Over the years, I've had many people e-mail me and show me orb pictures and have asked me what I thought of them. I used to say, "It looks like lens flare, dust, or moisture to me." The reply back was something like, "You insensitive jerk! Can't you see that's my departed Uncle Larry visiting to tell me he still loves me?!"

Melanie: That's a good response to that sort of sensitive question. Maybe it's the paranormal equal of "Do these jeans make my butt look fat?"

Tamara: Sometimes a metaphor is too perfect for further comment.

Jeff: On the other side (pun intended), if someone shows me an orb photo and I say, "Yeah, maybe you have something there," that person may attach my name to the photo saying I certified it in some way.

Tamara: This can be a real problem. Even if you do think something may be valid, a person in the field must be very careful about what's said or you wind up endorsing things like "Oxyplasm -- The Product that Really Gets those Pesky Ecto Stains Out!"

Jeff: If someone wants to believe an orb is their Uncle Larry, then I think that's fine. I wouldn't tell someone their religion is wrong, and I won't tell a believer that it's just dust or lens flare. If the image gives them some degree of comfort that it's their "sign" from a loved one, then I say let them have it.

Melanie: I have noticed in the past couple of years that a lot of paranormal investigators and websites have done a complete turn-around on the subject of orbs. Some won't even consider orbs as evidence of ghostly activity because true orbs can be so easily confused with dust particles. There is one paranormal site that I frequent that has a banner showing a photo of an orb with a red X through it along with the words, "This is your camera. This is your camera with dust. Any questions?" so the attitude towards orbs has really shifted.

Tamara: Ah, my favorite subject (well second only to abuse of the word "skeptic"). Fanatics. Jeff, you're so right. Individual interpretation is always valid -- for the individual, if not for everyone. But people who have to have an all-or-nothing-at-all credo like the “No Orbs!” one make me nervous. The black and white thinking is fanatical and I don't care for it -- it doesn't matter if it's something I basically agree with or not. Fanaticism is a dogma all by itself. There's a fear factor in it, too, a need for the person to have everyone think as they do. Evangelism, anyone? Certainly, there are a few absolute certainties in our world -- a very few. Everything else, especially for someone who investigates the paranormal, should probably be shades of gray. Even science can only rarely make an absolute statement, but it's rare and frequently, it ends up being questioned down the road. This is why the Amazing Randi can safely make that million dollar award claim year after year.


 


Part One of Menage au Talk, with Jeff Belanger
Part Three of Menage au Talk, with Jeff Belanger
Part Four of Menage au Talk, with Jeff Belanger

 

 

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